GRAPPLER BAKI SPEED REVISIONS (2024)

Baki Speed Feats

It's time for a speed revision boys. Let's get this on. First, here's all the feats we'll be using.

Links to all feats below.

- There's tons of subsonic feats from the flashback arc but here's one https://m.imgur.com/a/EWKZG5z

- Hanayama blocks bullets while injured (Subsonic) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...er_feat,_this_time_with_a_speed_feat_included

- Sikorsky dodges a bullet (Transonic) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KGiffoni/Sikorsky_dodges_a_bullet

- Katsumi's Mach Fist (Supersonic)

- Yujiro catches an arrow (Hypersonic) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Reppuzan/Lina_Shields_-_Yujiro_Catches_an_Arrow

- Yujiro blitzes soldiers (Hypersonic+) https://www.deviantart.com/kirito352/art/Yujiro-s-casual-speed-Baki-801860288

- Musashi attempt a blitz (High Hypersonic) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TataHakai/Baki:_Musashi_attempts_a_blitz

- Kaku Kaioh's Mach Fist (High Hypersonic+) https://mangaxmate.com/read/10036/139806.html

Second thing to point out is adjustments to two calcs. Musashi's blitz and Yujiro's blitz. Yujiro's blitz used values to inflate the yield. After talking with a calc group member he suggested using subsonic reaction time. The average yield of the low end and high end was just over Mach 17. As for Musashi, the calc only has a low end using the 0.0009 second timeframe. This can be debated but I felt a mid end of about 0.0005 seconds was much more fair as Itagaki could have easily been implying 0.0001 as well. Anyway the calc with that value yields Mach 37.

Third, time to go over all the changes. I have listed the tiers I think fit best for each character with a small description behind my reasoning. If more details or clarification is needed comment below please.

Subsonic:

- 13yo Baki (FTE to regular people many many many times)

- 15yo Hanayama (Matched Baki)

- Yuri Chakovsky (FTE to regular people and matched Baki)

- Maximum Tournament Chiharu (Somewhat kept up with Iron Michael who should be at least this fast)

- Richard Filth (One of the slower fighters but shouldn't be below this)

- Sam Pierre Atlas (Should be comparable to Yuri)

- Yasha Ape Sr (Matched Baki)

At least Subsonic likely higher:

- 13yo Baki Post Gaia (Perceived those beautiful was equal with before as slow)

- Grappler Baki Gaia (Only barely lost to 13yo Baki)

- Beginning of Series Baki (Far faster than before)

- Yasha Ape Jr (Faster than Yasha Ape Sr but couldn't tag Baki until he allowed it)

Subsonic+:

- Maximum Tournament Hanayama (Upscaled from his Subsonic feat as he performed it while in a near death state. Hana should have Supersonic reaction speed only, given he can react to attacks from faster characters but is not nearly as fast. This was best seen when he could react to Katsumi's Mach Punch but couldn't move fast enough to block or counter it)

- T-Rex (Comparable to Hanayama)

- Zulu (Tagged a very casual Baki)

At least Transonic:

- T-Rex (The Dinosaur) (Confirmed to break the sound barrier but far slower than Pickle)

Supersonic:

- Garland (Faster than Hanayama and matched a casual Jack)

- Spec (Faster than Hanayama, shouldn't be too far below the other convicts)

- Doyle (Can barley react to an attack from Baki, somewhat reacted to Katsumi's assaults)

- Sikorsky (Upscaled from his calc)

- NGB Gaia (Likely faster than Sikorsky)

- Yoh Kaioh (Given his rank he should be this fast)

- SOO Chiharu (Somewhat kept up with a very casual SOO Baki)

- Maximum Tournament Katsumi (Punches at Supersonic speeds, confirmed by Retsu in SOO)

At least Supersonic likely higher:

- Dorian (Faster than Katsumi can perceive)

- Maximum Tournament Doppo (Faster than Dorian)

- Goki Shibukawa (Comparable to Doppo and the main cast)

- Maximum Tournament Baki (Easily performed the Mach Punch, can blitz convicts like Sikorsky when he's serious)

- Maximum Tournament Jack Hanma (Overwhelmed Baki)

- Maximum Tournament Retsu (Matched Baki)

- Yanagi (Matched Baki and Shibukawa. His Benda Whip is likely superior to real whips in terms of speed which can reach above Mach 2)

- Motobe (Blitzed Yanagi)

- Muhammad Ali Jr (Superior to his father)

- Muhammad Ali Sr (Tagged a young Yujiro)

Hypersonic:

- Maximum Tournament Post Sex/Demon Back Baki (With his DB he blitzed Jack and at the end of NGB he easily blitzed Muhammad Ali Jr)

- SOO Base Baki (Stronger and faster than at the end of NGB)

- Base Pickle (Can blitz Jack and matched SOO Baki albeit he is slower)

- Deinonychus (Faster than Pickle)

- Baki Dou Hanayama (Could perceive a casual Yujiro's movements which should have him here at the very least)

- Baki Dou Doppo (Could very slightly tag a casual Musashi)

- Baki Dou Katsumi (Shouldn't be too far behind Doppo)

- Baki Dou Motobe (Could tag a casual Musashi)

- Baki Dou Jack (Comparable to if not superior than Motobe)

- Baki Dou Shibukawa (Reacted to Katsumi's attacks)

At Least Hypersonic:

- Biscuit Oliva (Much faster than SOO Base Baki, could attack Guevara before he could react)

- Che Guevara (Together with Oliva could blitz and KO Baki before he could react)

- Ron Shobun (Consistently depicted as faster than Oliva even after the latter got serious)

- SOO DB Baki (Matched Oliva in power and speed)

- Transformed Pickle (Comparable to but slower than Baki)

- Baki Dou Retsu (Forced Musashi to fight more serious)

- Prime Doppo (Superior to his Baki Dou self. Made Yujiro fight more serious)

At least Hypersonic+ possibly High Hypersonic:

- Base Baki Dou Baki (Scales to Yujiro's calc)

- Nomi no Sukune (Matched Baki Dou Baki)

- Prime Doppo with Sangan (Scales to Yujiro's calc)

High Hypersonic:

- Musashi (Scales to his calc)

- Base Yujiro (Faster than Musashi)

- Base Yuichiro (Comparable to Yujiro)

- Kaku Kaioh (Comparable to Yujiro)

At Least High Hypersonic likely higher:

- DB Yujiro (Should be far faster than anything in the verse including the Mach Fist)

- DB Yuichiro (Comparable to Yujiro)

- DB Baki Dou Baki (Matched a serious DB Yujiro for an extended period of time)

- FP Musashi (Faster than Baki)

High Hypersonic+:

- Katsumi with Mach Fist (This speed can only be reached when using the Perfected Mach Fist)

- Kaku Kaioh with Mach Fist (Same as Katsumi)

Now what does everyone think?

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